Brampton 10:23 Mon Dec 1
Gordon Brown standing down
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As far as i am concerned - cuntmeister general
But of all the obvious failings credit on the Euro and perhaps if you are of a Unionist bent, putting one up Salmond the racist
Credit too for not taking the easy seat in the Lords
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JayeMPee
10:22 Tue Dec 2
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Whats new, had it not been for the referendum on Scottish independence one could have been forgiven for thinking that he has been 'stood down' for years!
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Coffee
9:29 Tue Dec 2
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No. A hedge is never heg-dependent.
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Ronald_antly
9:29 Tue Dec 2
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Only if there is such a thing as hegesophy.
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Coffee
9:27 Tue Dec 2
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Ron, shouldn't that be hedgesophy?
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Ronald_antly
9:25 Tue Dec 2
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Hedgemony - The study of hedges.
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Monk~koknee
9:20 Tue Dec 2
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Not in the sense that hegemony is the domination of a single state over others but yes if it can apply to a global ruling elite.
Those with the money don't have the same sense of nationalism as they like to instil in their citizens,
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Coffee
9:07 Tue Dec 2
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Monk
growth -- or hegemony?
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Monk~koknee
9:02 Tue Dec 2
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Wise words Sir Alf but apart from some noise I doubt that the masses are anywhere close to understanding (or is it caring) about where power truly lies in the modern world or the sham that democracy has become in execution. I don't even see this as a pendulum but as a continuum in the growth of powerful, global corporations and moneymen.
At some stage it may end in social unrest but only if the next financial crisis has a traumatic affect on the populace. Until then they will be happy with their booze, fags and reality TV shows.
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inconsistant fc
9:02 Tue Dec 2
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Great post, Sir Alf, particularly agree with this bit:
"Admittedly we need a far more informed and educated electorate of critical thinkers " A massive part of the problem.
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balders
9:00 Tue Dec 2
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TTIP
Think the UK would benefit from this agreement , especially the south east of the country
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After8
8:58 Tue Dec 2
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Agghhhh it's a communist!!!!!!!
Agghhhh!
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Sir Alf
8:51 Tue Dec 2
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Only the naive would think just about any modern day politician was worthy of praise. I see the squabbles on here about blue versus red and the relative virtues of different mainstream parties. Its all a sideshow and has been for a long while.
Democracy (cough) and the political / parliamentary systems and processes are the problem. Admittedly we need a far more informed and educated electorate of critical thinkers and hopefully, little by little, people can see that large corporates, their owners and the small elite who own pretty much everything, now have more power than at any time since the social changes after WWII.
Want evidence? Just Google the acronym TTIP. Cameron, like Blair, like Brown, like Clegg and the majority of politicians over the last 30 years are doing ultimately what is best for the people and companies with the money and ensuring, along the way, they get their rewards.
I am not just spouting a load of Marxist rhetoric or at least trying to not make it sound that way because it is not. Politics, economics and democracy are really in many ways about 2 or 3 things IMHO.
1) Do you believe in the distribution of wealth?
2) How evenly or skewed should that be?
3) How much of a role should government and corporations play in that distribution?
The problem is that after the pendulum swung too far left with socialism and stagnation, of the 60s and 70s, we then had a complete reverse over the next 30 years and it has swung back to a point where business, corporations and their owners have far too much money, power and influence. The population is placated with material wealth/consumerism and media channeled propaganda to keep them with just enough.But its gone too far IMHO. Social unrest is coming. There are issues with a welfare support culture of entitlement too but that is insignificant when you start to understand the damage corporations and banks have inflicted due to the deregulation and neo economics of the last 30 years.
Anyway, Brown, Blair, Cameron., Major and other politicians are pure theatre and the real issues are the disproportionate flow of wealth to the top. Check out TTIP.
**** Puts pitchfork and lighted torch down ***
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balders
8:23 Tue Dec 2
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Did someone say he was great
Read this report and see how great and financially damaging the Labour years were
http://www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn92.pdf
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After8
7:52 Tue Dec 2
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The worst prime minister since Lord North and massively out of his depth. He was a good political chancellor but the fact is he turned the spending taps in way before the banking crisis.
The only good thing he did was stop us going into the euro.
He's also a horrible man, he badgered Blair for years, he took out all the opposition to him. He bullied and bullied and bullied people into submission and when he became prime minister he governed like a megalomanic.
I seriously think he was more mentally Ill when he was PM than Thatcher was at the end.
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PistonHammered
5:12 Tue Dec 2
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holyhandgrenade 3:43 Tue Dec 2
"he did manage the 2008 bailout against the rantings of the opposition"
I would suggest that he and Obama took their instructions from the same source from above (and I am not referring to the imaginary friend in the sky) seeing as they did exactly the same things during 2008 which was basically tax the working man into servitude while handing all the proceeds to the banking elite to supposedly save their arses. Joke!
An absolute disgrace of a man that sold his country to the banking devils and comes away looking like a savior?
As Mad Dog has so eloquently phrased, ALL POLITICIANS ARE CUNTS!
And when you make it to the top it would suggest you sucked a lot of dicks to get there and therefore by default one of the leading cunts.
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holyhandgrenade
3:43 Tue Dec 2
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JGW1 12:18 Tue Dec 2
Agreed. History will generally judge him to have been one of the best.
And whatever his personal failings as PM, he did manage the 2008 bailout against the rantings of the opposition at the time.
If people think the economy has been fucked the last few years, it would have been 1930's style great depression if that bailout had not been managed through.
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DukeofDevo
2:11 Tue Dec 2
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How will anybody notice when he stands down?
He's only been in the Commons a handful of times since 2010, complete waste of time.
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mentor
12:31 Tue Dec 2
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He systematically groomed, abused, raped and sold out the people of England. The man will forever be a cunt.
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JGW1
12:18 Tue Dec 2
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Outstanding chancellor. Decent man who just lacked the charisma and social dexterity of a politician. Clearly became bitter and embattled after too long in the political world.
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Ronald_antly
12:12 Tue Dec 2
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Mad Dog 12:08 Tue Dec 2
You'll probably receive a proof-reading award for that.
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Mad Dog
12:10 Tue Dec 2
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The bigot thing was hilarious.
Pretty much all politicians are utter cunts
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